Oh boy, this is a good one. So much to say about this -- so
little time. First off, I don't believe it's necessary to belong
to ANY religion because we are all a part of the Creator. I'm
not a christian & prefer to be referred to as a Spiritualist.
I believe in the Creator & reincarnation. I think we all 'come
back' until we 'get it right'. My thoughts concerning organized
religion is that this is a scheme thought up by man for control
of the masses. Scare the hell outta the people & convince
them that we converse with 'god' & god says this and that.
Wars are fought over religion. People are enslaved, tortured,
& murdered by religious 'believers'. The people who go to
these buildings they call 'churches' & listen to the religious
leaders translations of what that book (written by man) really
means. They actually have to listen to someone else in order to
know right from wrong & how to live an honest life? I really
don't think so. All each of us have to do is look deep inside
ourselves to find that we're all part of our Creator & we
all have a conscience which, if allowed, can guide us in the right
Religion & politics have shared domination of countries since
the beginning. People fled to this land to escape such a life
where religion ruled. Many christian church folks have no idea
what the history is for their religion. They're told of the 'righteousness'
of their 'beliefs' & think any who do not live & believe
as they do, will burn in hell. Give me a break!!!
They use their interpretations of their written word to justify
hatred. Well that's fine and dandy but who can trust words written
by man? Why do they need someone else telling them how to live
& what to think???? Are they all morons that need guidance
in doing good? Why? They've traveled to the continents, entrapped
the aborigines, enslaved them, tortured them, & forced their
beliefs onto them. Those who refused to convert were tortured
& murdered. All this by god fearing christian solders!!! What
a friggin' crock!
Oh what a great people we Euro whites are. We screamed 'freedom' .... but we did the same
thing to those who lived here before we did. We stole their land
that they loved. We murdered those who refused to convert to the
christian way of life. We forced them to deny their beliefs for
what??? For the beliefs of people who had such a 'loving' track
record??? A people screaming for religious freedom while hunting
people they thought of as witches. Burning them at the stake because
they felt evil had taken them over when infact it was EVIL to
murder them for not believing as the christian believer did. All
someone had to do was accuse another of being a witch & that
poor person was convicted. Not ifs, &'s or buts about it.
No one needed any proof. Oh what a loving lot they are. Lie about
someone so they will be tortured & murdered. And they have
the brass ones to be screaming about christians being murdered
in other lands these days. Is there any wonder??? Pay-backs are
a bitch aren't they?! So is there any wonder that christians believe
the 'written word' (written by man, mind you) when they have such
a long history of lying & believing lies?
Yup, ya want torture, murder, lying, deceit, theft, child molestation's,
bribery, cover-ups, mayhem, embezzlement & all that good stuff
----- just look no further than government & organized religion.
What a couple they make! And these are the ones who talk down
about Hitler & Nazism!!!! Makes ya wanna throw up, doesn't
Very good reading:
Witchcraft By Tim Sutter © 2000-2002
Then there are those who 'believe' that the intentions of the
founding fathers of our country was to create a 'christian' nation.
This is not true. Our founding fathers were not christians. I'll provide you with a few links so you may be educated on this matter.
1. From: The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, pp. 8,9 (Republished
1984, Prometheus Books, Buffalo, NY) ...
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church,
by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church,
by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each
of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own
part, I disbelieve them all."
2. From: George Washington and Religion by Paul F. Boller Jr.,
pp. 16, 87, 88, 108, 113, 121, 127 (1963, Southern Methodist University
Press, Dallas, TX) ...
George Washington, the first president of the United States,
never declared himself a Christian according to contemporary reports
or in any of his voluminous correspondence. Washington Championed
the cause of freedom from religious intolerance and compulsion.
3. From: The Character of John Adams by Peter Shaw, pp. 17 (1976,
North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC) Quoting a letter by JA
to Charles Cushing Oct 19, 1756, and John Adams, A Biography in
his Own Words, edited by James Peabody, p. 403 (1973, Newsweek,
New York NY) Quoting letter by JA to Jefferson April 19, 1817,
and in reference to the treaty, Thomas Jefferson, Passionate Pilgrim
by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 311 (1991, Madison Books, Lanham, MD) quoting
letter by TJ to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, June, 1814 ...
John Adams, the country's second president, was drawn to the
study of law but faced pressure from his father to become a clergyman.
He wrote that he found among the lawyers 'noble and gallant achievements"
but among the clergy, the "pretended sanctity of some absolute
dunces". Late in life he wrote: "Twenty times in the
course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking
out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there
were no religion in it!"
It was during Adam's administration that the Senate ratified
the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, which states in Article XI
that "the government of the United States of America is not
in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."
4. From: Thomas Jefferson, an Intimate History by Fawn M. Brodie,
p. 453 (1974, W.W) Norton and Co. Inc. New York, NY) Quoting a
letter by TJ to Alexander Smyth Jan 17, 1825, and Thomas Jefferson,
Passionate Pilgrim by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 246 (1991, Madison Books,
Lanham, MD) quoting letter by TJ to John Adams, July 5, 1814 ...
Thomas Jefferson, third president and author of the Declaration
of Independence, said:"I trust that there is not a young
man now living in the United States who will not die a Unitarian."
He referred to the Revelation of St. John as "the ravings
of a maniac" and wrote: "The Christian
priesthood, finding the doctrines of Christ levelled to every
understanding and too plain to need explanation, saw, in the mysticism's
of Plato, materials with which they might build up an artificial
system which might, from its indistinctness, admit everlasting
controversy, give employment for their order, and introduce it
to profit, power, and pre-eminence. The doctrines which flowed
from the lips of Jesus himself are within the comprehension of
a child; but thousands of volumes have not yet explained the Platonisms
engrafted on them: and for this obvious reason that nonsense can
never be explained."
5. From: The Madisons by Virginia Moore, P. 43 (1979, McGraw-Hill
Co. New York, NY) quoting a letter by JM to William Bradford April
1, 1774, and James Madison, A Biography in his Own Words, edited
by Joseph Gardner, p. 93, (1974, Newsweek, New York, NY) Quoting
Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments by JM,
June 1785 ...
James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution,
was not religious in any conventional sense. "Religious bondage
shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment
of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More
or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance
and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and
6. From: Religion of the American Enlightenment by G. Adolph
Koch, p. 40 (1968, Thomas Crowell Co., New York, NY.) quoting
preface and p. 352 of Reason, the Only Oracle of Man and A Sense
of History compiled by American Heritage Press Inc., p. 103 (1985,
American Heritage Press, Inc., New York, NY.) ...
Ethan Allen, whose capture of Fort Ticonderoga while commanding
the Green Mountain Boys helped inspire Congress and the country
to pursue the War of Independence, said, "That Jesus Christ
was not God is evidence from his own words." In the same
book, Allen noted that he was generally "denominated a Deist,
the reality of which I never disputed, being conscious that I
am no Christian." When Allen married Fanny Buchanan, he stopped
his own wedding ceremony when the judge asked him if he promised
"to live with Fanny Buchanan agreeable to the laws of God."
Allen refused to answer until the judge agreed that the God referred
to was the God of Nature, and the laws those "written in
the great book of nature."
7. From: Benjamin Franklin, A Biography in his Own Words, edited
by Thomas Fleming, p. 404, (1972, Newsweek, New York, NY) quoting
letter by BF to Exra Stiles March 9, 1970 ...
Benjamin Franklin, delegate to the Continental Congress and the
Constitutional Convention, said:
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire,
I think the System of Morals and his Religion...has received various
corrupting Changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters
in England, some doubts as to his Divinity; tho' it is a question
I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it
needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity
of knowing the Truth with less trouble." He died a month
later, and historians consider him, like so many great Americans
of his time, to be a Deist, not a Christian.
The Treaty of Tripoli, passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797,
read in part: "The government of the United States is not
in any sense founded on the Christian religion." The treaty
was written during the Washington administration, and sent to
the Senate during the Adams administration. It was read aloud
to the Senate, and each Senator received a printed copy. This
was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate,
but only the third time a vote was unanimous (the next time was
to honor George Washington). There is no record of any debate
or dissension on the treaty. It was reprinted in full in three
newspapers - two in Philadelphia, one in New York City. There
is no record of public outcry or complaint in subsequent editions
of the papers.
CHECK THIS LINK OUT: Notes
on the Founding Fathers and the Separation of Church and State
We've all been reading how so many of the leaders of the christian
churches have been getting caught almost 'with their pants down'.
Then the godfather of the catholics summons his fella's over there
to the Vatican to chat about it all. Hmmmmmmm, did his hindass,
er I mean highness NOT know this stuff had been going on throughout
the ages?? Where's he been???? Now, I don't know about you but
I didn't hear or read anything concerning the 'victims' of those
assaults. I read plenty of wishy-washy things da pope had said
but what about the victims & what they've gone through at
the hands (well to put in mildly) of his boys???? In MY opinion,
da pope-meister was more concerned about how the church was going
to fair through being caught! In the past, they got away with
more than molesting innocent children. They're so hell bent on
screaming "MORALS" we must live by, that it sickens
me to even think about such crap being swept under the rug, by
the very institution that dictates how we must live & think.
Each of their child molestors should be sent to ME for punishment!!
Please don't for one minute believe that the molestations are
only in the US. I've included in this portion a link to some very
interesting information for you. Head on over to the following
link to see for yourself: Clergy
Crimes Index This is VERY interesting reading, And while you're
there, read up on those who believe the Vatican holds quite a
bit of 'treasures' stolen from the Jewish people. Take a gander
at - Nazi Gold (listed on the site) and the Vatican. Then pop
on over here: Roma
National Congress to read something very interesting too.
Then hop on over to The
Check out how the pope-meister tried to get mass murder Augusto
Pinochet (remember him?) released "for humanitarian reasons"!!!
What? Is that old fart NUTS????
Now, where did this institution of the Catholic Church &
christianity come from? How was it started. Lets check this out,
shall we? Holy
Roman Catholic Church then after that, here's sumtin else
you can take a gander at: The
Well I'm no Xtian, but being the Spiritualist I am, I will pray
for those who have faith in the Xtain church or ANY (organized)
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